外国网友对英雄连2的看法

rostov

听说这里留给学的，知识渊博的一大把，注意和金发碧眼的要保持一致哦

It's a childrens' game.
I like the graphics but the game play looks silly.
Screenshots look good but videos of the gameplay just looked wrong on so many levels.
You would think with the type of budget that the game has that Relic could of turned the game into something more than a childs version of war.
I guess they decided to cater to their core audience for ideas.

Lol Dane, that's the very reason they got the money in the first place...
Sad truth is gaming world is ruled by momma's wallet...

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The Cold War is long over, but the ugly propaganda is still alive in the minds of some writers. And apparently it is considered that it helps make money. May be.

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HAy Relic is just over the border from me about 95 minutes from where I sit up in Vancover BC.  I should go bang on there door and tell them they are full of sheet.  muhahaha

They are really following what is expected to sell.  SAD but true.  I mean people had issues with 3d space maps in homeworld for gawd sakes. Like in star trek 2 the wrath of Khan.  Capitan he is brilliant but he shows 2d thinking...  Well something like that.  MUHAHAHA.

And game guys follow movie plots not history........we see that all over the place.  Enemy at the Gates is all mid and big budget games follow for east front.  and saving private ryan is all they follow for France..........

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I find the comments about the lack of historical accuracy/propaganda most interesting.  What particularly stands out?
I don't personally know anyone who fought in Stalingrad, so if you guys have any good local insights I'd like to hear about them.  I can see how misrepresentation devalues the reality of the times.  
& a bit further OT:-
You know that TV show Shtraf-bat (штрафбат)?  Didn't they show NKVD MGs placed to prevent any 'retreat'?  Been a while since I saw that show, but I can imagine that would be useful to control a penal battalion.
Was Brest Fortress (Брестская Крепость (2010)) way off?   Just wondering how far Russian film goes towards realism compared to Western productions.

Here's what frustrating. Punishment battalions (shtraf bats) were in all armies of the world. Defensive (barrage) squads in the same way in the Wehrmacht appeared in 1941 (during Moscow battle), and in the Red Army only in mid-1942 (and first came up with them in the days of the Roman Empire). The prison camps were in all the countries of the world, the largest in the world created by the United Kingdom for example. But what the heck, there is no game or movie about the prisoners in the camps of the UK, there is no game about German or US barrage and punishment battalions. But damn the same things about the Soviet Union and strive to stick in every hole. WTF
NKVD iss analogous to the military police in the U.S. Army + border guards in the same department. But where I can see games about evil US MP what murder US Army soldiers?

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US punishment battalions are well documented.  

Haven't you seen the Dirty Dozen

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Here you have a film about the POW camps in Britain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_One_That_Got_Away_(film)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_One.jpg

:-)

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Its a low budget rare films - his shot about his. We also do "good" is. This is normal. But this not AAA game/cinema in "realistic" manner.
But in films/games "about evil russians in WWII" this ugly things in each, w/o exceptions.

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Russian - bad guys its ok, yes, like COD/MW or Red Alert manner. But here's just some kind of insanity, not "bad guys" as COD/RA, but it was some shit, who also issued for alleged realism.

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As Julius Caesar showed 'History is written by the victors'. E.g. "The Truth" should show the defeated enemy as evil to justify the conflict. Editing 'reality' is endemic. Don't think any of us can escape

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Yes, but in this case the exact same Americans fought with the Germans, and were allies of the Soviet Union, it is not clear why as the greatest evil, it shows its allies. It's somehow even silly.

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At this point in time it is the Cold War that must be justified, it doesn't need to encourage logical thought in popular consciousness.
Yes it is silly, but politics don't seem to rely on truth or common-sense. Better to have a disinformation strategy.

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After WW2 the western powers and defense industries needed a new enemy to justify the huge expense it would take to keep these industries alive and flourishing with free money from the government.
With Germany and Japan defeated,Communist Russia or any communists in general fit that bill as the most logical choice.

After the collapse of Russia(USSR) in the 1980s these industries and politicians who supported them needed to find a new enemy to direct their energies and govt. resources at.

War on drugs-that didn't go over too well.Toppling a couple small time dictators-There are only a few worth the effort.

War on Terror-After 9/11,that seems to work pretty well and justifies all sorts of new ideas for exacting huge expense and personal sacrifice from the population.
The govt. can get some long term mileage out of this war maybe even taking it a step further to eradicate Islam as a religion(In its present form) permenantly from the planet.

After that it would be interesting to see who our new enemies will be.I'm sure there will be some new segement of the worlds population or society in general that will warrant the puplic enemy #1 status,even if they aren't all that dangerous.

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Your take on needed boogie man is in line with my view as well. But also a needed boogie man from the OTHER side as well.

Hollywood makes its OWN history. Average game company follows hollywoods history.

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Yeah,Hollywood does for history what the mainstream media does for news.

Doesn't have to be factual,just interesting,entertaining and/or somewhat believable.